I curently have a Keller and you sight it in at 20 and its good to go out to 30 from a treestand, although my Farthest was 38-40 yds. Also it has 3 pinheads with 5 adjustable positions for ground shooting and I was doing Fair out to 50 yds just tinkering to see if I could come close. But it is somewhat noisy and thats why I' m going to try a savage, I heard they were quieter. Although I had only 1 deer jump the Keller. It shoots like a charm. No guessing the yardage. I' ve been told by a member that the QC savage ranger does what it says it will so now I' m out to get one, always need new and better toys.