ok...heres a scenerio...you work birds off the roost...they gobble and respond a little...they pick up hens or whatever...they keep responding off and on....or say they eventually quit responding or leave earshot...

your setup on a point that is scratched up pretty good...

you have a good 2+ miles of nice grassy trails that go through perfect turkey territory...if they are responding, you can usually get one to locate...can even extend the runnin n gunnin trail all day if you really want to put miles on your boots...

do you sit and wait hoping they come back??

or do you run n gun and hope to find a hot one??

if you wait on the point calling off an on, how long do you sit and wait? all day?(only allowed to hunt till noon)

ive been hunting this area since i was 12..im now 21..thats 10 years...i know most of the land fairly well..and know some of it all too well...

dad and i have had success both ways...i killed one last year by sitting and waiting..but he responded off and on all morning and made a big semi circle around me before i killed him at like 9...dad killed one running and gunning...and ive fired up and worked a couple the last couple years myself running n gunning..but never killed one running n gunning and trying to locate one...sometimes i end up back at the truck at 10 or 11 and really never located one to work..also, its not uncommon for birds to come back to the area at 8, 9, 10am...

but its almost torture for me to sit there if im not hearing birds...

just looking for expert turkey hunter advice....i know i know..i bet "get some patience and sit there!"...

if sitting there is the advice...what kinda calling should i do off and on?? usually do a mix of yelps, clucks, purrs, and scratching in leaves every 15minutes or half hour...usually closer to every half hour..last year was easy to sit there because i had him respond pretty much every 15 mins-half hour i called and knew he was making a big circle...worked that bird off the roost...

birds are pretty pressured and its not uncommon for them to come in pretty tight lipped...even the "blabber mouth" 2yos...mine last year shut down completely after he got within 100-150yds...i was ready to call it quits and take a nap..looked around and spotted him standing there..he just got above the knoll of the ridge...right after i spotted him he looked around for the hen and let out a gobble...the rest is history..but weve had them come in 100% silent...