as a consumer who has delt with many companies through the years i can say first hand that cva is nowhere near the level of a thompson center in customer service and parts used in there muzzleloaders. cva uses cheap crappy pot metal in many of there key parts like adjustable sights and trigger parts.there is no comparison quality wise. traditions i believe are from the same factory as i have interchanged parts between cva and traditions. my vote is save your money.