I agree with you completely beech. My first two seasons here I got trigger happy, and went dissapointed for the rest of the season. I know better now. Had a hard time keeping my dad of the trigger on a few average bucks last year, but he did and got a really nice 5x5. Ha passed up nine different bucks by 10:00 the first morning he was here. He just couldnt believe the deer numbers he saw. It took him two weeks to get a cow elk, so that was harder. The woods were so dry til the last week, we couldnt get in range til Thanksgiving day.