Thanks my blood brothers, I have my answer! Gonna have to get more arrows because I will be trying my hand at 3-D tourneys soon. Also, my son is going to start shooting his bow later this month for the first time and I'll have him practicing through out the summer on in to fall. Right now he's pulling 30 but very easily. I just want him to get comfortable until this fall when I max it out past 40 if he can pull that much. I'm very serious about getting him a deer before I do, that would be awesome! Then he can say, Ha ha dad I got one before you did! lol Heck, might as well take him 3-D'ing with me so we both can lose arrows.