Thanks Matt, I was disappointed in this group b/c all year they have been into my lectures and seemed interested in the subjects at hand, until now, I guess it's the end of the year and they just are burned out. I asked how many of them would die for this country today, 1 out of the 26 raised their hand. I have several kids that won't stand for the pledge too, and when I went to the administration about it, they told be to back off on it and not push the issue, but it was lost battle before it got started.