I have an old knight and hale crow call that i carried for a while. Now I have the lohman crow/owl combo, so its takes up less space. I've probably only used ita hand full oftimes. Therefore like the previous poster said I'm not very picky about it.Ive only used it when there are absolutely nobirds gobbling, or a really quiet dayb/c in my opinion if the birds arent gobbling at the crows or owls that are already there, then your call won't make a difference, nothing beats the real thing.