Well there are seminars designed more so to sell and then there are seminars there to help teach. That is what I meant by my comment to Hard Luck - he has 45 yrs of experience. I know he could teach me something!

Now that being said - I have bought CDs from those Teachers - Have not bought CDs of those so called Kill videos - never have as I can see parts of em on OLN.
But from what I call teachers I'll mention a few - one big one is Lovett Williams - another just commented here and that is Adrian Hare. I did purcase his CD and did pick up a tip or two and it gave me many others to ponder. That is what I look for.

The rest if they are on an the ole Outdoor TV program - well I don't need those types videosI call watch my kill type videos. I don't buy them never have. I can do that myself. Tho I do watch em free on TV - not for the kill aspect - not for the banter - but to hearReal turkey voices and MORE SO to see live footage and concentrate deeply on the mannerisms, body movements, etc of any real turkey they show on that tape! You can learn a lot right there. There has been some that with the sound off - I tell myself - that bird is nervous.

Oh and Adrian's Video was the first Video I ever bought. The others are Williams CDs of real turkey voices and calls and the Monarchs of a spring morning - a NWTF real turkey voice cd - no narration - just loads of natural spring turkey chatter. \


JW