Lanse,

It is nice to hear someone with such a broad range of experience and your comments arejust another example of how one cannotstereotype Thank youabout an entire practice liked fenced hunting. It seems to me, however, that in other countries there may bedifferent philosophies toward fenced operations. Yes, I would agree. In Africa, I would say the fence’s main purpose is to keep poachers out. Poaching is a huge problem there. It is followed secondly by wildlife conservation and preservation. Many species would be extinct without high fence operations preserving them. Take Rhinos for example there and American bison here. Most of the bad examples of fenced hunting in the U.S. that people talk about here, don't involve safari-type hunts on ranches the size of a county,with conservation officers on hand to ensure fair chase. I tend to agree and avoid such places (unless I am hired to do a culling service) but Also, at least as it relates to Africa, it seems that many such hunts are state-controlled and/or they are often specifically linked togame management rather than operating as purely profit driven operations. Or am i way of base here?You may be correct, but the fact of the matter, it takes money (profit) at all levels to employ a game management plan. Where does that money come from? Wouldn't it be nice if money grew on trees? I understand what you trying to say though. Profit driven places tend to "guarantee" a kill. Are there guarantees in hunting? In my opinion, NO. but that's me! I won't cast a stone on someone with other abilities.

To answer Jim's question,

"A Little effort for a little achievement." Says you! Not Me!

Effort= acheivement?The man worked to acheive the money didn't he? Maybe yes, maybe no? He's got it! How he spends it is totally up to him. If he derives success by spending money, so be it. What he spends it on is totally up to him!Did you spend your money on a bow? Many would sayyour purchase isunethical, especially if you use it on wildlife! Hunting is definitely more than just killing. Unless you want to be judged, then judge not!

To everyone in general,

Have you ever thought what it would be like if we only hunted does/hinds/cows and their weight didn't matter? What if there weren't record books and the trophy was really in theeye of the beholder?Too many people are worried that someone will shoot something "bigger" or betterthan them. That just isn't fair! They go to great lengths to discredit their rival's acheivement. Why?Wouldn't it be nice if we all worried about ourselves? I mean, I do not tell you how to hunt, where to hunt, or why to hunt. Why do you feel the need to tell me?

Mike,

Yes, I have hunted in the hill country...near Campwood (Maverick Creek Ranch-in excess of 3000 acres), near Wimberley, near Mason, near Junction, and near Frederickberg. I know exactly what you are talking about. In Fredericksberg, the land owner was required by the state to remove all white-tailed deer from his property before he could releasehis own stock and exotics. He has four sections. The property was cleared by Texas Parks and Wildlife. 10 years later, he has a 15 deer per acre ratio within the confines.He manages it that way.I hunt a low fence ranch in Uvalde,Tx. It is approximatley 2000 acres (sorry, I will not give you the name) . There are deer everywhere-I do not think I have ever come home without one (ok, five per the legal bag limit). I have also been on the King Ranch near Corpus Christi and on many ranches near Hondo. I do not find killing a deer in Texas a big challenge. Finding a place to hunt...whole nother story.