Some times thats what it take. I was calling with a buddy of mine this year, it was october. On this farm there is an old dump way in the back of the property, it"s about 600 yards from the tree line we were calling from. Had two dogs come just out of the dump, looking our way. I turned the PM off, was using therabitt. They sat down on us, so I turned the volume down, and give"em just enough to move in, but nothin doin. I toyed with these two dogs for 20 minites. By mistake I hit the fawn in dis. about half volume. It"s on the same sound card, those two came running in like they were already shot at, only got one, but sometimes changing sounds is the best thing you can do.