hossdaniels,I found that heavier than 210 they got hard to stablize with a 1-28 twist now if you happened to have a 1-20 twist then some of the Dead Centers I believe they make them up to 240 gr. Now I shoot 200 and 240 yds and it is myopinion that the combination of .269 Bc and the speed which a 200 gr canbe pushed to is not likly to be matched; a couple of my frieds are using the in Savages with smokeless With excellant results. Lee