Long range hunting bullet for .45
03-13-2008, 05:58 PM
#11
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RE: Long range hunting bullet for .45
For long range one of the best is the 200gr SW the next best is the 200gr 40 cal XTP MMP makes th sabot for them. Lee
Now the reason the XTP will work, is cause it will penetrate AND expand from 800-2000fps! The Shockwave is a no brainer
I shoot both MOA.I will add/agree with others, that the 195g 357/45 DeadCenter and QT 195g 40/45 PRBullets will also do the trick
All I shoot are 45cal Disc Elites.
03-14-2008, 09:36 AM
#12
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RE: Long range hunting bullet for .45
I dont have a 45, so how fastis a 200g .40 bullet pushed with say, 100-120g 777?
Lemoyne, youright about the slower twist rate, hadn't thought about that. I am just concerned about using a light slow bullet past 200 yds. I quickly found out with my savage .50 that heavy was better farther out. I believe it has a 1:24 twist.
Lemoyne, youright about the slower twist rate, hadn't thought about that. I am just concerned about using a light slow bullet past 200 yds. I quickly found out with my savage .50 that heavy was better farther out. I believe it has a 1:24 twist.
03-14-2008, 12:08 PM
#13
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RE: Long range hunting bullet for .45
The 45cal Disc Elite has a 1:30 Twist Rate.
Here is an OLD range report from 2years ago:
Got out to the range with my new chronograph and recorded stats on loose Pinnacle powder 150grains and 120grains. Using CCI primers and the PowerStem breech plug. All recordings are @ 10 feet from the muzzle.
150/120 grains with 40cal Tan MMP sabot:
200grain ShockWave- 2232/2073
195g QT PR Bullet - 2287/2130
175g RedHot - 2453/2290
225g LBT PR Bullet - 2190/2033
200g XTP 10mil - 2290/2129
36cal 70g Hornady RB in PR Bullet 45/357cal sabot--2842/2680
36cal 70g Hornady RB in PR Bullet 45/357cal sabot with 2 Round Balls and 150g Pinnacle--2306
PS
The exact weights of the powder are--150grains By Volume= 136grains by Actual Weight.
120grains BV= 110grains AW .
That's what I was getting back then. This should give you some idea of velocity.
Hope this helps
Here is an OLD range report from 2years ago:
Got out to the range with my new chronograph and recorded stats on loose Pinnacle powder 150grains and 120grains. Using CCI primers and the PowerStem breech plug. All recordings are @ 10 feet from the muzzle.
150/120 grains with 40cal Tan MMP sabot:
200grain ShockWave- 2232/2073
195g QT PR Bullet - 2287/2130
175g RedHot - 2453/2290
225g LBT PR Bullet - 2190/2033
200g XTP 10mil - 2290/2129
36cal 70g Hornady RB in PR Bullet 45/357cal sabot--2842/2680
36cal 70g Hornady RB in PR Bullet 45/357cal sabot with 2 Round Balls and 150g Pinnacle--2306
PS
The exact weights of the powder are--150grains By Volume= 136grains by Actual Weight.
120grains BV= 110grains AW .
That's what I was getting back then. This should give you some idea of velocity.
Hope this helps
03-14-2008, 01:31 PM
#15
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RE: Long range hunting bullet for .45
Hmmm, that aint bad. Should be plenty for 250 yds, maybe 275 with a sst. I might be looking for a 45 now. Wind drift much better than I thought too.
200g sst.40 at 2150 fps Zeroed 3" high at 100 shows 22" drop and 20" 10mph cross wind at 300yds with 810 ft/lbs energy. Even considering hornady's slightly inflated bc's that aint bad.
200g sst.40 at 2150 fps Zeroed 3" high at 100 shows 22" drop and 20" 10mph cross wind at 300yds with 810 ft/lbs energy. Even considering hornady's slightly inflated bc's that aint bad.
03-14-2008, 03:00 PM
#16
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RE: Long range hunting bullet for .45
The 200gr SW or TMZ should be all you need with 100+ gr of powder. I have taken plenty of deer at 200+ yds with it, and the majority are still pass-thrus and bang-flops.
If you want to go over 200gr, your only real options are the Dead Center .40s, like the 240gr. This is a good bullet, but it cannot be pushed as fast as the copper jacketed bullets. I would recommend getting some, seeing if they are accurate in your gun at 80gr, then jumping straight to 100-105gr and testing again. If the 240 is not accurate at 100 or better, I'd go with the SW or TMZ at 110gr or so. Even if it is, you'll have to compare trajectories and make a decision.
The truth is, wind drift is quickly going to become problematic past 200yd no matter what bullet you are shooting. I have decided to focus on minimizing drop to make up for ranging errors and just not shoot in questionable side winds.
If you want to go over 200gr, your only real options are the Dead Center .40s, like the 240gr. This is a good bullet, but it cannot be pushed as fast as the copper jacketed bullets. I would recommend getting some, seeing if they are accurate in your gun at 80gr, then jumping straight to 100-105gr and testing again. If the 240 is not accurate at 100 or better, I'd go with the SW or TMZ at 110gr or so. Even if it is, you'll have to compare trajectories and make a decision.
The truth is, wind drift is quickly going to become problematic past 200yd no matter what bullet you are shooting. I have decided to focus on minimizing drop to make up for ranging errors and just not shoot in questionable side winds.
03-14-2008, 03:01 PM
#17
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RE: Long range hunting bullet for .45
ORIGINAL: Semisane
Man Lane! That 175 Red Hot is really hauling butt. What kink of accuracy did you get with it!
Man Lane! That 175 Red Hot is really hauling butt. What kink of accuracy did you get with it!
However, my nieghbor uses them exclusively with his 45cal CVA MagHunter type rifle with 3 T7 pellets. He only shoots neck shots on deer
And his groups are about the same as my Elite
