I shoot a winchester 1300 in 20ga fully rifled with red dot an 12ga fully rifled with Elite 3200 3-9x40. The Ithica deel slayer is an accurate free floated barrel all one piece also the bolt action like mossburg 695, savage210 I have found to be very accurate if you have $$ and can find a browning A-bolt that's a real nice shooter. My 20ga can do everything my 12ga can do with less recoil an KE. But all it takes is a well placed shot. I hunt with friends with auto's an they tend to rush shots or get trigger happy,buck fever.