Sorry guys, I didn't see that other post. I went to buy the wife a new computer sat., well me and the boy ended up getting me a new rifle. I had every intention on getting a 270, but then something told me 25-06, so I bought it. My soon to be 12 year old and me are going antelope huntingand I thought my 338 would be a little much. Oops, we forgot to get a computer.