3drchr it must have been nice to get that kind of payback. By today's standards there would of had to have been 120 shooters just for a winner take all pot that big. Maybe the "hosts" didn't profit as much then. I don't know what the answer is for getting more participation. Whether it is rule changes, lowering entry fees or changing venues. Yes I said changing venues. As IBO shooters we go to Bedford, McKean & Nelsonville year after year so we accept traveling say 5 or 6 hours one way. What if they had a National Triple Crown somewhere else. Might be a nice change. How often have you heard these comments? I hope we are not on top of the hill at Erie again this year. Ya I shot that range last year. I am not going to Nelsonville this yearbecause I am too far out to win. Maybe some change is needed. As far as Trad and Ru being combined, the other organizations due it now. The current Traditional in ASA is basically if you shoot a stick you are in one class. You are allowed a single 12" stabilizer. Finger must touch arrow nock. NFAA Traditional( I know they only have one national 3D shoot) is all sticks, no stabilizer, no string or face walking. ASA has a 25 yard max and NFAA I believe has a 50. The participation for all three organizations is small. Last year the top turnouts were IBO-RU 15 in Bedford, TRAD 19 in Erie;ASA 27 in Texas and NFAA had 3 or 4 at Yankton. If the IBO combined RU & TRAD the largest turnout would have been 32 at Bedford. So is combining the classes the answer? I don't know. Even if you had all three classes combined you would only had 42 shooters at Bedford. That is still not a large class. Maybe we need a Pro Traditional class to get us some respect and recognition. LOL!!!!!!