Dude not trying to bust your bubble, but if I am reading your post right I might remind you this is a family site, and we have many kids and women who are archery hunters that visit here in the bowhunting section. So in the future you might just want to tone it down a bit. I myself am a die hard elk hunter who has grown up and lived all my life in elk country (Idaho). I have archery hunted them since I was 14 and the excitment has never left me. I too have missed some as well as been successful. I hope next time you connect instead of missing. And againplease keep you posts PG rated. Thanks idahoelkinstructor