K N what does ASA have to do with this? I don't recall ever mentioning ASA in any of my posts on this subject. Participation or lack of in ASA has more to do with wood bow shooters being unwilling to shoot against someone with a metal riser & elevatated rest(i.e. IBO Traditional & Longbow vs RU).More they only want to shoot 25 yards. This year the RU class with probably be down one more shooter as I will probably not shoot. Not just because it is becoming economically unfeasible but since long distance snipers such as yourself are coming out I couldn't stand the embarrassment.