well i m new on this forum but i ve been tukey hunting for a while and this year i bought a carlson's dead coyote choke and with 3 inch 6 shot winchester extended range at 35 yards it but 37 in the head and another 30 or fortyin neck i was shooting a jellyhead and had sucess with a gobble stopper but neither one shoots like this choke in a 835 with 6 shot 3 1/2 in it puts over 50 in head alone i bought it at the cabelas