The green Hevi-shot shells are known as a bad patterning shell that was created a few years back. I, too, have patterned them in my Rem 870 SPS-T and the pattern was a joke and not even worth my time to count the holes in a ten inch circle.There is now a "newer" Hevi-shot Hevi-13 shell out that is bronze in color and is supposedly a much, much better shell. I have read over on the nwtf website that some of the guys are getting 200 or more pellet counts in a 10 inch circle with the bronze Hevi-13 3" #6 shotshell using a Indian Creek choke. The season is approaching too close for me to start trying different things now, but I think that during the summer months when there isn't any hunting going on, I am going to try and get me an Indian Creek choke and try the Hevi-13's out and see how it patterns for me. 200 pellets hits in a 10" circle is a pretty dense and tight pattern!!