First, I used extra high extended rings to get the scope high and forward enough that I could look through the scope comfortably. In my opinion, the problem stems from the Tenpoint mount being made for the standard sight used at the time it was made: A single red dot on an built in attachment. These tend to sit high. Also, they need the adjustable dial-a-range base like this one includes.

Torque relaxation - At work, we define this as a joint condition, which looses torque, not by the loosening of the fastener, but by the compressed layers yielding. This can be the bolt stretching, joint metal being squeezed, etc. Whichever, clamp load drops so low, that the bolt eventually backs out. Even if the bolt stays put, the clamp load is too low to avoid the joint slipping or similar.

In the case of these rings, both where the rings wrap around the scope tube and how it tightens to the base, before the screws yield. A properly designed bolted joint will yield the screws/bolts before the joint material yields. In the case of these rings,as you apply torque to the rings, they will torque to a reasonable value, but then, within a few seconds, if you recheck the torque, it will be much lower. So, I can degrease and apply locktite, but the best I will hold these screws to is just a few inch pounds of torque.Even though the torque has dropped, I don't see the scope slipping around on the target, so it may just barely be ok. I still don't like it.