Well i went out chasing crows this morning and was largely disappointed. I borrowed a buddies mossberg o/u. While my spartan is getting a mid bead put on it. Im used to shooting an o/u with ejectors but this thing only has extractors. Ive shot it a fair bit at trap skeet and sporting clays, so im familiar with the gun. Today tho in a more so hunting experience i decided id probably trash the gun if it were mine. Its cold here, believe me like 16 below yesterday. So needless to say i was wearing gloves. Its dang hard to grab the rim of a shell with gloves on when it only pops it out like a quater of an inch. Anyway, somewhat a venting session and hope it may bring light to someone throwing around the o/u idea.