I do alot of small game hunting with a bow and use the judo points, one of the main reasons I like them is that the tip grabs the ground in the case of a miss and stops the arrow fairly fast, which keeps you from hunting lost arrows...

I've never used those grapplers, although they're pretty much the same design except that the judos' fingers are fixed to the tip and the grapplers slide up the shaft,how do they perform with an impact with the ground/brush?

Iwouldnt mind giving them a try but I've always been king of skeptical of them, the last thing I want is the grappler stripping my feathers off as it slides up the arrow...