ORIGINAL: gzg38b
GMMAT I totally agree. People over-inflate their abilities when they start talking about their group sizes. They remember the best groups and forget about the majority that make up the true average.
Grab a Vegas target and shoot a 45 arrow round. If you can shoot 1/2" groups at 20 yards, then you are world class. You would have no problem shooting a clean 450 / 45X Vegas round. You should be out there making money with that kind of shooting.
Do you know what percentage of archers can shoot a 450 / 45X Vegas round, with their bow hunting setup? Try it sometime and let us know how it goes.
The big Vegas tournament uses this target, but they don't use the "x" ring until a couple rounds into the tie breaker. They shoot 300 rounds, 3 of them, which means you are shooting at the 1 9/16 ring for a 10. 30 of them is 300, times 3 days is 900, this will get you into the shootoff. I think last year 8 or 9 people made it. They then drop slowly if at all. They shoot 2-3 ends same rules, then switch to the "x" ring as "10", they drop fast then and they are the best on the planet at this game!
Everyone naturally says their "group" is what is really teh "best". We do it in all sports! I know when I shoot a PR on a golf course, that becomes what I measure against, not my average. Same with my bow.
If you can hold MOA out to 50-60 yards you are an elite level shot!