I like and have a savage. It shoots better than my abolt. Lots of guys on the savage forum from indiana. Knight's are good too, but no smokeless. I've never personally seen a T/C (lots of omegas around here) that will shoot with a savage or a knight. The T/C does look easier to clean, but again non issue with smokeless. Check out savages here. http://dougva.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=Savage

Some hotrodders, but very good info.