Thank' s Doc.....Trust me....I' ll be there this Sunday with bell' s on. I already started Shooter to stay after the toss.....before I' d just throw an object and he' d take off and be there before it ever hit the ground......I worked 2 -10 minute segment' s and he' s really starting to catch on. Think he' s really wanting to learn.....now if the trainner can just learn now to do it right. I heard what Paul said about it taking lot' s of baby step' s, and that statement caught my attention. Thank' s again.....Wayne