Thanks for the site...thats awesome you and dad hunting..I've hunted and killed alot with my dad....deer and boar...Cherish those memories...He is 61 now and still kills at least a doe(a year)with my H&R....he taught me how to shoot in 1986.

Interesting....I never heard that about re-cleaning...I have learned something today! I will try the 5 shot and clean method next time I am out...This cleaning thingonly worked for me....find out what works for you....We should keep in touch...email me if you ever want to shoot the breeze...you gotta send me pics from that hunt...I'm going back to Quebec in May to smack another bear....this time with my H&R or Rossi 12...and not bow...If you want a guaranteed kill on a black bear...let me know....Guaranteed are tough words...lets just say..you will have bear in front of you...!!! Cherish those memories with dad.