yeah i'm kinda getting it now, the new limbs are nice so far no pock marks on the front of them but i'm shooting a 2216 w/blazers and 125 grain point outfront, with 125 slick tricks today i almost hit them same hole at 22 yards, i might stick with that set-up i just like the aluminum shafts, they are easy to fletch and the inserts come out nice w/a little heat, anyway it still probably shoots in the ball-park 315 or so, much faster than my tenpoint and i've taken 6 deer with that with no problems at all with speed at 299 or so,speed......................