Thanks for the congrats guy's I can tell you it definetly took out a lung he blew bright red blood in quite a few blotches and lots of red mouth foam, as ant hunter know a buck that is down that gets spooked can cover ground fast adn that's what he did, the biggest problem was once off my ground he enters 50-60 acre golden rod field which is nearly impossible to track and see anythign in during late october early nov. I did all I could at the time I assure you, it was only the second deer I ever lost in 18 years of hunting bow and gun, I was bumming hard core but a happy camper now. Congrats to you Duke that buck had quite a spread, mine had awesome mass 5-6" Circum measurements all through, I did what I call a half euro on him yesterday and it looks great just have to bleach it out a bit.