I was going to give them a try and went on line to order a dozen, but from the Canadian source it was $27 per dozen plus $18 shipping.....OUCH! I cancelled the order and contacted the company. I ordered a heavy bird feeder with a slate roof from Canada and it cost me less than half that amount to ship. The company response was "The cost for shipping is controlled by the carrier and we are only recouping our costs. We would mention that the $18.00 covers up to $100.00 of shafts before it goes up." I will probably stick to PO cedar for now. Thanks for the advice. You guys are great!!!