invector - the last gal I talked to said something about a freeway, a church, and a fire station, and some road that winds back up into some woods... I' m not sure exactly, and was going to hammer it out a little this coming Sunday. I' m just south of you in Marysville, if the birds have made it up that far, they must be doing well - the closest release site I know of was Snohomish county somewhere.