We are in 100% agreement, especially on the 125" mark determining the quality of the deer and or the hunter. I laugh at some of these hunting shows (and I watch and love most of them) when they shoot that cull buck because he is 6 yrs old and "ONLY" scores 143 as an 8pt. That deer is every bit as mature as the 6yr old 170 they kill later on in the hunt they just discredit the deer because of inches of horn.