I don't think someone takingone good deer, or even a few can really determine ablility. Heck, severalherehave admitted to not being highly skilled, yet have taken P&Y bucks in their relatively short careers. YES, skill certainly plays a big part, and more skill will equal more and bigger bucks. However, location has ALOT to do with it as well. I have a good friend....we hunted together for years, and were probably equally skilled at that time. Neither of us ever killed a P&Y, biggest at that time being maybe 90". He moved away and into a "big buck state" and proceeded to kill 6 P&Y bucks in his first 6yrs, all net 125 - 130. Is he a good hunter, yep. Did his skill make the difference? I doubt it. Admitedly he sees a couple dozen P&Y bucks each season now....and had probably been lucky to have ever seen one prior to living there. Don't get me wrong....skill is skill. Taking the best bucks in the area you are in, is a true testimony to that ability -- NOT whether you have taken a P&Y or not.