Ya, I read the reviews, just hoping to et more on hands use by laymen. My AR is set up fro Bench, Prairie dogs (24" Kreiger HBAR) if I ever go someday. I am planning on using it for coyotes which will be 75 yds or under except for rare occasions. I jsut don't want to put a scope on it, was hoping for a big tube red dot of some kind butthe gundoes not lend itself to many mounting options.