I know jeff I am just having problems wording it thats all. I am not good at this.
Bob I am not trying to Jab.[:@]
I really think you could kill a P&Y buck where you are at but right now you are doing the management thing and a mature buck will not stick around to be a dead one. I believe if you change your way of hunting this land of yours you could get a P&Y. With killing 8 doe's thats a lot of intrustion on that land and you know they wont stand for it. If you ever decide to take 1year and go after a P&Y and settle for nothing else I do believe you would kill one.
Keep the pressure from you down, have your stands up way before the season, enter and exit paths set I think you wouldwack one. You have the deer numbers down there so I am guessing they have to be there thats all.
I also had FL to much on my mind when I was making these points compared to my area.
So in closing yes location is key I do agree.
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
Fraley I promise I'm not arguing with you....just trying to state a FACT.
I'll give you partial points on your last statement too......ONLY in regards to the area I hunt. Sure....there ARE mature deer (bucks) here. I've seen them.......THREE of them in THREE seasons (and 1 was only on trail cam). The other two are either on my wall or at my taxidermist.
Compare that to how many others here in the forums see on an annual basis. Now tell me.....if you were a betting man.....who would you bet on to kill one, next season? it's simply a "numbers" thing. Some areas of our country (and even states)have differing degrees of population, hunting pressure, etc... ......all elements required to allow bucks to grow to maturity. But the biggest factor in all of this is "location".
Let's say you're out to catch a world-class Bass. Where would you go? I'm certain there are farm ponds all over the country that hold 10# fish. BUT.....there are areas of the country that hold a SUBSTANTIALLY higher percentage of these fish. There are areas within those areas that receive less fishing pressure than others. I can't recall seeing an FLW tour event in WV.

And I certainly suspect that .....if there was one....no records would be threatened.