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Old 01-08-2008 | 10:15 AM
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Default RE: Picking up the bird

Discomfort = Makes the dog respond to a command during training. (like withproperly usedheeling stick, ecollar, whiffle bat, choke collar, prong collar etc)

Pain = Will cause the dog to vocalize or shut down or both.


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