load them and love them. they work. i shot a big doe this year in Ks. at 277 steps and she dropped wher she stood. i then shot a big 9 at about 175 and he staggered back three steps and tipped over. the only shot i had on the 9 was facing me, i used a bipod and was prone. i know this in not one of the best shots out ther but i have been shooting this same rifle for several years and you know how that one goes, you look, shoot and hit. im by no means a match shooter or anything like that but i had 100% confidance in my gear and ability and put the steaks in the freezer. btw, this was done with a 243 and i am pushing the 95gr. sst at about 3000fps.