Thanks everyone. I do like the Browning so that might be an option but they do cost a bit. I really like the det. mag. on the Rem' s since they are external and the Browning is attached to a hinged floor plate (I have one in 7mm RM).

Anyone have a link to buy the Howa or Tikka? Most of the searches I' ve found on the net have come up short.

skeeter and stubble, you guys rock as I' ve known from past correspondence with you both. Been gone from the forums for a while (got in trouble at work for surfing so I quit cold turkey plus they used to take forever to load a page ) but now I' m back! At least when I' m not at work .

Thanks again everyone.