I hunt in the UP and shoot real short distance. I hunt bear and deer with the ml. I used 80 grains of fff with 295gr pb. I have shot 3 bucks and a bear with this setup. The only problem I have had with the pb is on the bear I shot it broadsideon the shoulder bone at 24 yds and only punchered one lung. the bullet looked like big grains of sand when I dressed it out. After a long tracking job in the dark. Not fun!!! That was the only bone I have hit with the bullet and dont know If it is regular 4 it to do that or not.I have switched to another bullet but still love the way they flew 4 me. I might try the platinum. I am trying to find a test to see if they will stay together better. if they work I would love to shoot them again.