I went with 50/55 Ceder with my Martin Hunter(50# @ 28"),they work well with the Hunter,as far as my Kudu(50# @ 28")goes I went with Bemen 400 clasics due to the fact that it is in my veh most of the summer and ceder would warp,with my longbow I also shoot 50/55 ceders but really dont have it tuned yet due to the fact I havespent more time with the recurve's.