Eh joe I had the chance to go with dad and his group never did wish I had of don,t have anything big enough to drop one but I could probaly borrow one if I had the chance to go. Hey MerryXmas And Happy New Year to You sheri and the kids.I,am in the phone bk 4th Baxter in Mt Brydges so if your coming out this way give me a call and stop in you guy,s are welcome .