RE: Lucky,a great shot,or B.S.?
I am withmost of you guys had I heard this like you did I would callBS no question.
A little about me. I have a 350YRD rangethat is 800 a few months of the year in my back yard, and a bench set up out of the back of my garage so I can shoot and "dummy shoot" in any weather.
I am somewhat of a collector and very avid shooter. Iusually shoot about 4 times a week and by my primer count shotclose to3500 roundsthis last year. I have a decent sized for my age(26) gun collection. In my safeupstairs alone I have 20 rifles. I keep the ones that I huntand shoot the most in there. My family and I togetherprobably have 3X that many.
I do get a fair amout of timeon thebench due to the load devolopment that I like to do as a hobby and the numberof rifles broght over to sight in and load for.Ihowever, prefer to do my hunting practice off the benchand more offhand, leaning on tree, and the like. Ithas been my goal to become a very good offhandshooter, I amnot where I want to be yet but getting better.
I amvery dedicated to shooting and spend alot of time on the bench just "dry firing" with snap caps trying to not loosethe bull when firing. I have spent hours at a time doing this working on getting my breathing and trigger pull as good as I can.
Iam mainly a hunter right nowbut have a somewhat secretambition to get into competitive shooting someday. I would like to start at silhouette shooting if I feel like I can get good enough to compete.
About the rifles. I acquired them at different times and they have been great shooters from the time I bought them. I bought the SPM 7mm-08 first. When I first bought it I only loaded 140 sierra prohunters infront of 42gr of varget (very first and only loadI tried)and it shot very well, If I rememberright.50-.75 at 100 was the norm. I was very happy with this considering it was a hunting rifle. I know this will sound crazy but I am really not an accuracy nut for my hunting rifles. I like a better than needed solid 1MOA for anything over my varmint rifles and am very content with the 2.5 MOA I get with my 44mag lever. Anyways I probably ran 300 rounds of that load through that rifle. One day I got bored and started tinkering with 120gr bullets and had a box of 140 nosler BT's that I had got in. I had heard that the 7mm-08 really likes H4350 so I started devoloping a load for it. I loaded 5 at a time working up and the hotter the loads got the better it shot. I probably could have gone hotter but stopped at 48gr @ 2800fpswhen the accuracy was unbelievable(LOL!) all 5 tore a hole at 100yrds. I tried another couple groups with it and same thing. So when I shot up the remainder of the Sierras this was the load I used.
The 338-06 SBGM is the second gun I acquired. It was preowned having fired 26 rounds of factory WBY ammo. I started out firing 225AB's though it as I bought a hoard of them cheap from a fella at the campfire. They shot good but nothing crazy good probably .75-.90. I shot 100 this way mostly from field positions to fireform the brass. I had found a deal on the 180BT's at my local shop and thought that it would make a great deer bullet. I bought the entire stock and went to work. I started and finished with RL-15 mostly because I had heard so many say this is the powder for the 338-06. I started at somewhere close to 56gr and worked up. The groups started right at 1" and got smaller as I went up. I ended up at 59gr of RL-15@ 3000-3024 with no pressure signs at all. It pretty much had the same results as the 7mm-08 with everything sub .50 at 100 and when I really beared down and took my time they just made ovals. Makes me shake my head.
The 243 is the gray and stainless ULW. This is the newest one I have owned. I haven't had much time with it. When I first got it I took some of the remaining 65gr V-maxes that I had loaded up for the Super varmint master 243 (great shooter but gone now)that I took prarie dog hunting in SD. They actually shot better out of it than they did out of the super heavy barreled SVM with the 8-32 scope it had on it or at least I shot it better. It was crazy I shot it 15 times and made a group at 100 that you could cover with a nickel and put it away. LaterI loaded a few of the standard hunting load for my friends with 243s with a 100gr bullet and 43.5 gr of H4350 and Sighted it in at 100 and put it away.
Fast forward to about a week before deer season here my father in law and I was doing some testing to see whereour guns were hitting at 200-300. I hadn't really had a chance to shoot it much more since the load devoloping to get dialed in. I remember very clearly and still have the targets and the whitness. I shot 7 3 shot groups at 2004 with the 7mm-08 and 3 with the 338-06 and all 7 were at or under a half inch with the best 2 being a nice cloverleaf. I shot both of them the next day due to the fact that my minnesota uncles that were down for the hunt needed some proving and got the same result.
I admitted on the forum here that until SJ mentioned it I had not shot the 243 at 200yrds and could not claim that I grouped under a half. I agreed.So I pulled it from the safe and grabbed the 3 remaining 243 loads with 85gr TSX's that I had loaded for a friend who had sold the rifle. The rifle had been cleaned since being put away. I fired one shot andmarked it and shot the remaining 2. The 3 shot group including the fouling shot was .709 and the last 2 measured .420. I tried to post a pic of it but couldn't figure out how to. I still have it on my email.
Now is that consistent .50" shooting at 200 no, is the rifle capable, I think it is with the right load if the shooter is.
I think I might have came across a little different than I intended to. Do I think one can just pick up a new ULW and have it shoot .25MOA consistentlywith factory remington express ammo? Of course not. I only have a 5-6 that I would bet can do it and one of them is a $3000 full cusom remington and I probably wouldn't put $$ on the 243 until I had some more timewith it, butItruely think it is very capable.
I also thinkthat somethingthathas made a world of differencein how myguns have shot is theproper torquing of the action screws.
If anyone wan'tto come see or shoot with me I would love it. Ihave peopleover all of the time and would really like for anyone that would like tocome shoot and talk guns to do so.A Mile south of moundville.PM me formy phone number.