The XTPs also shed there jacket when shot into wet newspaper. I lost a nice buck 4 years ago with a 300 gr XTP out of my 44 mag (1430 fps). It was a 35 yd, broad side, shot and the deer went right down. It layed there for a few seconds and jumped up an ran like it wasn't touched. I know the bullet didn't pass through because what little blood there was, wasonly on one side of the tracks (the side I hit him on). Tracked him for about 1/4 mile when he went into a swamp with waist deep water. It was a nice eight point (I felt sick).