I think we all ought to respect each others opinion, and person theres no need for any one to get upset.
frontier gander, I worked with them untill I could make them work right I even talked to the company about them and if you use them with them 70 to 90 gr they recommend they will do a good job, I decieded not to use them, I like heavier loads than they work well with because some times I need to shoot longer range and there are much better bullets for that. To me even the Sabortooth which is a similar bullet has many advantages including working with heavier loads right and price. I guess the thing that bothers me most is how easy they load, it is hard for me to believe that they stay where they belong on top the powder if you should happen to bump the gun wrong; but to be honest I have not heard of many problem with that and a lot of people have been using them for a long time.
I think that some people forget that PB were popular a long time a go and were designed when the top load was about 100gr of RS, I am not sure but I think it was before inlines. Lee