THANKS FOR ALL THE INFO.I' M NOT THAT GOOD YET BUT I TOOK SOME OF YA' LLS ADVICE AND BOUGHT A RANGE FINDER AND WENT TO THE WOODS. I HAVE BEEN SHOOTING ALL THE LOCAL TOURNAMENTS AND WAS SHOOTING IN THE 160S AND AFTER PRACTICING ALL WEEK I SHOOT 187 THIS PAST WEEKEND.THANKS AGAIN! I ALWAYS GET GREAT INFO ON THIS FORUM.