juno grl, you were the one that told me the BOB name, remember? That' s just the tip of the iceberg for SEAK, that is his firt traditional farm implement kill. He' s got a few more! I witnessed one of them, I will always have that image in my mind of SEAK doing the over the head axe swing with a shovel on that poor... sniff... defensless... sniff... sniff... I can' t go on.... wahhhhh whoo whoo whooo... bwahhhhhhhhh!!!