Thanks for the info guys I am just going to set it and leave it alone I did hear that some people grind the DAD down so they dont hit it while loading but I dont think I am going to do that yet. Hasanybody notice a difference from shooting from a tree stand for some reason my dad is shooting lower. Anybody use lumenoks on there arrows how do you like them andhow do you get the ends out of the cabon Expressarrows.