thanks guys.. any other guesses on the deers age.. My guess was 3.5 because his head was so big, the only kicker was that his snout was fairly short.. he had a big wide forehead though and a big wide neck.. My g/f's dad tried to tell me that deer was 1.5 year old and I said there was no way in hell.. Maybe I'm just nuts but do any of you see a 1.5 year old in that picture...? I definitely do not.