You have got to try this!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am hunting with a 17 mach 2 and have beensitting about 150-200 yards, overwatching this garden. I have already killed 5 rabbits and 2 squirrels. This little 17 mach 2 is absolutley dominating these things. ANd the best part is that i can still eat them cause there is no meat damage what so ever. The 17 mach 2 shoots pretty much a .22 casing with a ballistic tip. And like I said, its dominating out to 200 yards. You have got to try this!!!!!!!!!!!! Give me some feedback on if you like this type of hunting and if you have any suggestions on how to make this even better, please let me know and I will be very happy to try them.