i am still bow-kill-less. 3 with the rifle though. i have had some really nice 120-130 bucks and plenty of small bucks come within 20 feet of me and couldnt shoot them because it was earn a buck and i didnt shoot my doe to earn my buck yet. i was so sad!!! i did hit a doe at about 30 yards but hit the pocket between her shoulder and lungs :-( we never found her...i felt bad wounding her though...soon i will get one with the bow...hopefully next year