I've tried the peep with the tube and canned that thing pretty quickly. It's just another thingthat cango wrong at the wrong time. I also tried a release once as well. I bought it and went straight to the woods with it and as I was about to get down I decided to try it out with a practice arrow and I only got to half draw when it released. It wasn't set properly. That was the last day I used a release. I've been shooting fingers ever since. I know when they're going to release!